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ChangeisNear
Mar 12, 2022
In Forum
ALL BALCONY RAILING LAWSUITS HAVE BEEN DISMISSED- So now that all lawsuits have been dismissed let’s start more?! Who voted to decide we want more lawsuits. They just have no end with spending our money.. Anyone else notice how we don't hear shit from them until they need more money, imposing fines, towing or it's time to vote them back? Negative nasty people all year but best friends when it's time to vote. Seems oh so convenient. As of Tuesday morning the Court has dismissed the last of the three ‘balcony railing’ lawsuits with prejudice! We are now officially done defending these frivolous and costly filings. The only remaining issue is the association’s Petition for Sanctions against the plaintiffs and their attorney. As a board (Note not as representatives of our homes but the "BOARD" take themselves a little seriously? This isn't a board that helps anyone but themselves, and we're not talking about a Fortune 500 charitable board here it's a condo board who has been a part of non-stop expensive legal lawsuits since they came into our lives and for every year following. They seem to live/thrive for lawsuits) we will be pursuing the return of approximately $75,000 that the association paid in attorney fees for this nonsense. Keep in mind: Pursuing this with our association dues which could be spent on other more pressing matters. What if we/they don’t win none of this will be a slam dunk win except for the attorneys? More money of ours wasted. Court/legal fees are expensive what will the trade off really be after all court costs and legal fees. Just let the bleeding stop and move on. They know no end. How do we stop their spending and non stop legal cases??? Just a question, How many permits did they "The Board" get for the cheaply made balcony railings installed? Zero is the facts You’ve probably received several letters defaming the board members and solicitations for money. This small group of people behind the lawsuit are ramping up their attacks. With the mess they created, throwing out the current board is the only way left for them of getting out of paying the association money back. What do you think will happen to the Petition for Sanctions if these plaintiffs get on the board? They are looking to vote themselves a free pass. Just say no. -Actually we would like help with having to use more of our personal money to defend against the board's use of our Association money however they see fit and to ensure we have a fair election. Read that again.. We don't trust you to run our board anymore we want better representation and are willing to fund our own legal fees against your bullshit spending and voting practices. - The only mess was/is the boards overreach in every one of our pockets whenever they want. And no one wants anything for free just want a free and fair election-really that simple. Some of us would like this board to never to be a part of our community and I think there are many more who are scared to act out. And let's face it you can sue anyone for anything. Loser lawyers love it and they also know how expensive this can get forcing the "weaker" less financially backed party to concede. They have an arsenal of our money available at their disposal. That's all our money. I bet not one lawsuit would have been filed if you didn't treat people like shit . Survey Results A total of 61 units replied to the survey. The results are as follows: Deconversion: Only nine owners expressed an interest in deconversion. The range for agreeing to sell a two bedroom was $125,000-$200,000. Since we are not projecting a 75% ‘yes’ vote and most replies expressed a sale price of over the offered amount of $139,400, the board stands by its previous decision that this sale is not worth pursuing. The accusations behind ‘SaveLislePlace’ that the board wants to deconvert is absolutely not true. If someone is interested in forcing a vote, you are welcome to do so, please follow the Illinois Condominium Property Act and association by-laws. -Glad we have their attention looks like they are reading and studying up - they like to retaliate. Before it was a lot easier to shut people down when it was just a single homeowner or two. We have a rapidly growing group of very concerned homeowners joining in. Sadly many are afraid of this boards retaliatory actions! Afraid in their own homes. How utterly disgusting!!! -Plus they can't deconvert now, they need to soak up/force out more unhappy owners out before they do that they simply need to acquire more voting power - why doesn't the board represent our thoughts and feelings as homeowners, anyone else get the impression that they speak like the acting law body and not our/the representatives of our Homeowners Association? They work for us as fiduciaries. If they don't have our best interests at all times they need to go! - No one can keep up with the bylaws the board makes up at a whim – they never get an associations/owners vote and certainly don’t share these "laws" with anyone Parking: A total 23 owners wanted the association to continue managing the parking paperwork, but 38 people wanted the stickers to be passed out. We think the question was a bit unclear and we will revisit this question at the next meeting. -Notice how there are way less cars on the street now? Must have relaxed the steel arm over people to soften them up before an election. All of sudden playing nice. Don't fall for it people they go right back to nasty really quick - Unclear questions garner unclear results, nothing new from this group Rent Restriction: The results were split 3 ways – 20 voted to keep the rental restriction in place, 17 voted for a temporary reprieve and 19 voted for permanent removal. Not everyone answered this question. - It would be great if we saw the computer generated results; can’t really validate anything coming out of them. Except that they like more of our money. - how many votes do board members receive? New washing machines and dryers are coming to Lisle Place! You may have noticed that the board is installing new machines in the laundry room. The old ones were constantly breaking down, leaking and the company that leases us the equipment was very slow in making repairs. The damn things don't even have timers.. What's new about them? These machines are brand new and therefore, should provide better efficiency and cleaner clothes. Yes, the price has gone up, but the price has been the same for over 10 years. Our water and gas bills have gone up astronomically. Water billing has increased over 25% in the last several years. Those bills are paid all by the homeowners. By raising the fee, whoever uses the water, pays the bill. Tenants who rent and do their laundry will also be contributing to our fund. That’s a bonus. Simple math says 25% increase for laundry expenses would be fair. They clearly don't care. Was there a vote to figure out this new laundry pricing strategy Several residents have inquired about money remaining on the laundry cards. Please use up the amounts as much as you can. Some of the building will continue to accept the prepaid card. The office will exchange the card balance for quarters. Don’t worry, no one will lose what they paid. We are also purchasing change machines. Those should be coming soon. CASH Money baby 279 units at $4.00 a cycle per week equals $58,032 a year free and clear. A unit does 2 loads a week? well you can do the math. That's great side hustle cash Please be patient as we switch over to the new system. It will require some time and there will be some bumps along the way. In the end, the new washers and dryers will be a nice upgrade to our complex. - 4 paragraphs on laundry machines, but so little about financial transparency– who counts the money coming out of these and where does the cash go? Did they get permits for the new electrical work in the laundry rooms? Camera's to protect whom/what? Many of us have storage lockers which are considered our personal space. Are they spying on us or just want to make sure they get their quarters? Note about the circulating letters Property Values: According to the MLS, in July 2020, two two bedroom units sold for $105,000 and $111,500. A year later, in summer 2021 after deannexation, two units sold for $145,000 and $147,000. How do our friends at ‘Save Lisle Place’ consider these numbers to be distressed and below market value? - We’re in a recession, cherry picking (2) unit transactions doesn’t tell a fair side of any story. How about the all the private sales they try to make? Or the eviction cases against homeowners? Is that even a real thing or do they want to scoop up the homes for pennies? Whats their motive - - Lately, prices have dipped for two reasons. Per Illinois statutes, the association must disclose all lawsuits, of which 6 have been filed by the same persons. Mortgages are not interested in taking on such liabilities. Two, as of January 1, 2022, the association must disclose that there are structural issues, deferred maintenance and ordinance violations due to balcony railings not being replaced. Until the lawsuits are resolved and the balcony railing project finished, loans may be denied to potential buyers. These are the two issues impacting our condominium prices. “Save Lisle Place” persons have filed these 6 lawsuits, most of them are refusing to repair their balconies and are now crying that the prices are down. Really? cant legally install a balcony railing without a permit, board messed that one up too - see letter about zoning - No one crying over here. Just want a free and fair election. Oh, and the financial data for the last 8 years. Bank accounts, P&L statements, Balance sheets, transaction data i.e. contracts, tax filings. You know its called Transparency. Still don’t want to share with those who inquire. But But Why? - Unresolved Issues from 2006 condo conversion: In 2014 this board took over the association because our investments were in severe danger of being taken away from us. The Village was so fed up with the incompetence and inaction of the previous board, that it filed a receivership to take over the entire complex. We managed to fight off the Village. It took a lot of time, effort, knowledge and perseverance to get it resolved. At the end, Federal Court Magistrate Susan Cox recommended a ‘divorce’/deannexation and ordered a homeowner vote. Over 70% of units, including most of our letter writing friends, voted in favor of leaving the village. Per statute, the Court ordered the $86,500 payment to the Village to cover our portion of the outstanding police pension shortage and street maintenance. We would have paid this amount through taxes if we did not deannex. It was not an additional fee. Good news is that as of the deannexation date and forever into the future we will not pay the Village portion of real estate taxes, saving us all money over and above any payments made. Since they've taken power like tyrants I dont' think anyone has saved a penny our fees go up and up and they keep making excuses for needing more money. Special Assessments are the boards way of quieting everyone down. Make them live in fear that if you combat them they will take it out on everyone -Their case for deannexation from Lisle was made using civil rights discrimination as a basis. Trust nothing!! - – Inga and her husband were part of massive lawsuit see bottom. It took place or was formed against our former mayor for all the illegal/non permitted work she was doing in her personally owned units and Lisle had retaliated (see video at bottom). Rather than do it the right way they chose to take down the whole complex along the way. Remember her putting up “fire the mayor” signs up and down the block on our lawns. Who paid for those signs/lawsuits how did that make us look to our neighbors? We could have handled this more amicably but because she couldn't afford to lose to the Village (they were facing a Million dollars in fines) they made a much larger deal out of this which easily could have comingled joint funds for the efforts. Wheres the bank statements? She does hold the keys to the Association money. But i'm sure she wouldn't do that. We should see who defended who and get itemized invoices from their / our attorneys. Our deannex saved that family. We've done a lot for them Self Dealing: Because of the ongoing Village of Lisle lawsuit, homeowners were unable to sell units to buyers who needed a mortgage. People wanted and/or needed to sell and couldn’t find buyers. To ease the bottleneck, the board temporarily lifted the rental restriction FOR ALL OWNERS pending the lawsuit resolution. A number of investors took advantage of that. - Never alerted other homeowners of this, BOARD MEMBERS took advantage themselves. Why be on the Board: We are on the board because, being investors, we care about the financial and physical wellbeing of the complex. We work hard because we care what happens to our property; we want this complex to prosper. For those who have been owners for several years, we know you see the improvements. We went from drug dealing in our hallways, homeless people setting up residence in our storage rooms, people using our stairwells as bathrooms, leaking roofs, more pot holes than asphalt, etc., to a complex that is on the upswing. We still have many ideas and aspirations for the association. Stay with us. - Blah blah blah. They care and fight because they might be doing some things they don't wan't the homeowners to know about. This place is cash cow for the board memebers plain and simple.When you have unlimited association money and can pound lawsuits out left and right it doesn't matter. They are great cleaning ladies but not great business people.. i.e current de-annexation issues! lacus in bibendum nunc Etiam eu dictum magna vvamus -Cute sign off Drink from the lake loudly –translated – Must be code to celebrate their victories Final thoughts and things we should be looking into as a community before we even consider electing them again We're an embarrassment to this village because of how our board handles everything including representing us as homeowners to this community. Time for the clown show to move on down the road and bring some peace and professionalism to our community. Oh and what money are they going to be using/proposing to buy the parking lot with? What a joke. Sounds like they want to develop that land to build on? Using what funds? This board takes control using hostile tactics, deceptive practices, and just ignorance to homeowners until election time are we really going to allow ourselves to fall into this trap again? Sounds like the true definition of insanity. Most curiousity should be towards how this all just went away. They paraded the "life safety" issues in front of all of us but the real need was to get massive amount of personal fines tossed. See below. In and around 2017/2018 these board people really started to turn against us owners and residents in a number of appalling ways. Coincidence? Maybe, but not likely Scroll to 1hr:19min - this had to cost a small fortune to defend and again litigation is insanely expensive especially against a Village attorney!!! 1 million in fines against the Inga family eventually dropped (deannex). They found a way to get out of the jam deannex! See how the personal issue from Inga's husband came right before the condo business was held at the very same meeting?... At the time they/ Daiva wanted to "work with lisle" then just recently left them in the dust (deannex!)... They don't care they just want what they want. Seems like it set the precedence of power trips for years to come. They know no bounds. Pesky Facts but some of us have been keeping track for many years.
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ChangeisNear
Feb 15, 2022
In Forum
Why can't we see financial reports? Where are our bank accounts located, where are the statements? Who has permission to withdraw funds? Who deposits receivables? Where are the Detailed P&L Statements and Balance sheets? Takes 30 seconds to produce and print using "their" accounting software why not hand it over to those who have asked? Who holds our insurance policy? Who voted for the people on our board the right to use our money to support their families, their election costs, and the law suits that continue to be brought upon us? Where are the executed contracts for all the work that is conducted on our property? Why is the only solution to all the board's problems more of our hard earned money? Why does Dinga errr Daiva only know two words when coming up with answers to problems "Special Assessment!" Why would she say the board hid something from the Village of Lisle in the last meeting? What else are they hiding? (see first paragraph) Why are there rental restrictions for everyone but not for the same people who say we need rental restrictions? Do as I say not as I do? In the letter recently sent from the board to the homeowners... Quoted" The rental restriction worked in our favor"... Whose favor did it work into really? Can they really say they are responsible for real estate values increasing? When they snuck in and embedded themselves into our community, real estate values were at the lowest in several decades (google 08 Real Estate Crash). It's like saying mobile home values in Detroit have increased over the years.. They have!! They must not pay attention to inflation or how low supply of real estate leads to higher prices... Simple supply and demand.. and we trust these people's business intelligence with our homes' future? Why can't a reasonable property issue be resolved with civility and professionalism? Why do management feel the need to treat people like caged dogs? When we bark a little they bite or tow your car! Isn't this supposed to be a positive living environment? How are people's mental health living here? How much brain damage have we endured while they've ruled? We might have used to have drug deals and people sleeping in our buildings but we didn't have a threatening fines or threatening letters at our door multiple times a month.. Truly sad comparison I know.. Why have we all heard the promises every election term to make our property better but they highlight landscaping and carpet? Definitely agree with them.. The carpet urine stains don't increase values but chopping down nice trees... well that leaves less places for people to urinate.. Excuse me, as I sadly digressed.. If a reasonable person felt that their mere presence on a volunteer condo board was creating lawsuits and significantly costing the homeowners money... Why stay? Why not resign and move on? I smell a cash cow.. Seems like the tyrannical theory of Fear, Fear, Fear, Obey, Obey, Obey is the only way they know how to manage or should we say rule... Why must we continue to bail out their poor decisions and not hold them individually accountable? They should live here in one of the units they bought with our money for a few weeks, get their car's towed a couple of times, slip and fall on the ice with a response from management to just stay in your home instead, get your fees raised non stop or threatened special assessments, give them condo legal updates in Florida, make them listen to the constant berating of what they can and can't do in their own homes. See how they feel.... Conveniently they hide behind whatever laws and rules they can make up at their convenience and as long as no one challenges them it's Lisle Place or Naper Place Law! When did they reveal the results of the de-annexation vote? No one will ever know what the real results were but we sure see how well that conversion has gone. Money will come and it will go but harming peoples lives financially, mentally, and physically will stay with you into eternity. I wish them all the karma they so rightfully have coming.. Last time I checked Karma is a bitch.. But again they might get along with that type really well.. And if the above stated didn't this will definitely get my car towed...But so they can fully understand my thoughts to their leadership... eik velniop! (for my non Lithuanian speaking friends that loosely translates to "can i help you pack your bags"... or so I was told from a friend... ;) I'll be saying that on my Uber ride to the tow yard.. Let's rightfully vote these clowns back to their own circus to lead their own parade elsewhere..We should and we do have way too many questions that none of them seem to want to answer.. Ever.. As a fiduciary to all of our homes and our livelihoods they have failed and will continue to throw our money at their mistakes blaming us and not being held accountable for their actions. The time is now. We all have one shot to make our mistake of letting this show go on for way too long come to an end. It will be challenging once the dust settles but the circus will finally be gone... and we might enjoy a pina colada by our pool this summer.. We can all dream of a home where we don't have to live with Fear! Fear! Fear! Obey! Obey! Obey!
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